Posts by Heroprotagonist

    7 “ ‘Get ready; be prepared, you and all the hordes gathered about you, and take command of them.

    8 After many days you will be called to arms. In future years you will invade a land that has recovered from war, whose people were gathered from many nations to the mountains of Israel, which had long been desolate. They had been brought out from the nations, and now all of them live in safety.

    9 You and all your troops and the many nations with you will go up, advancing like a storm; you will be like a cloud covering the land.

    10 “ ‘This is what the Sovereign LORD says: On that day thoughts will come into your mind and you will devise an evil scheme.

    11 You will say, “I will invade a land of unwalled villages; I will attack a peaceful and unsuspecting people—all of them living without walls and without gates and bars.

    12 I will plunder and loot and turn my hand against the resettled ruins and the people gathered from the nations, rich in livestock and goods, living at the center of the land. ”

    8 Thy daughters that are in the field, he shall kill with the sword: and he shall compass thee with forts, and shall cast up a mount round about: and he shall lift up the buckler against thee.

    9 And he shall set engines of war and battering rams against thy walls, and shall destroy thy towers with his arms.

    10 By reason of the multitude of his horses, their dust shall cover thee: thy walls shall shake at the noise of the horsemen, and wheels, and chariots, when they shall go in at thy gates, as by the entrance of a city that is destroyed.

    11 With the hoofs of his horses he shall tread down all thy streets, thy people he shall kill with the sword, and thy famous statues shall fall to the ground.

    I'll answer for you to close this out. No, you aren't from Israel, no you aren't a Jew. You're from a country that was once enslaved by the Romans. Maybe your ancestors converted so they could trade and make money or maybe it was at sword point. Maybe they saw the Danube turned red with heretics. Maybe they were in a place after the Roman collapse where a wanna be king made a deal with the only institution left - the church. He'd give them what they wanted: Land and money and power over the peasants, and they'd tell the sheep that god wanted him more than the other guy.


    And now you are groveling at the feet of a foreign god. Still a slave centuries later. The great Rambam himself though Christianity was useful because it got all these new people to worship their god and obey the Torah. Go for it, serve, I'll pass.

    Are you Greek? No? Then WTF are you doing fooling around with Nyx? Show me any god and I'll show you a cultural import from another place and time. Christianity isn't remotely unique in that.


    What were our European ancestors doing prior to Rome and the Christianity they brought? Jack shit is what they were doing. And I hate to break it to you with your firm grasp of high school level history, but just about any religion you can name was forced on said population at some point and in some manner. So fucking what? Am I supposed to mourn something that was lost a thousand years ago when Rome brought civilization to Europe? That ship has sailed. Throwing away a millennia or two of your own culture won't change it.


    European Christianity just isn't the same thing as Christianity in the Middle East, Africa, Asia, etc. That's because older European culture (stories, practices, attitudes, history, folklore) is interwoven with Christianity. If you have any cultural link at all with your Glorious Aryan Ancestors, it is via Christianity.


    Tell Odin I said hello and fuck off.

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    I'm not here to evangelize. I'm here to ridicule. Feel free to believe in whatever Bronze Age Middle Eastern Goat Herder Magic you like.

    It looks like you are though- you're the one who brought up religious belief in the first place, and not for the first time. You're the one claiming that religious people are a problem... so presumably they'd be less of a problem if they held your own ridiculous... 'beliefs'?


    So now that you've established your superiority to 2.2 Billion Christians... care to tell us from whence such wisdom springs?


    What do you believe, EG?

    Religious people are a problem. Just imagine if the entire world was run by rival sportball fans.

    People live and die for their religion. Entire lives are lived around, through, for, and in spite of religion. Wars are fought, hospitals are built, works of art are created... in the name of religion. Empires and built and conquered in the name of religion. The ebb and flow of human history is shaped by religion, and always has been.


    But you're smarter than all those other superstitious monkeys right? You're not a 'problem' are you?

    Mr Fish, I gave you this passage on another thread. But here I think you need a few followup verses.


    From the other discussion



    Paul goes on though, speaking of yourself and Nyx. There's a reason why Pagans are homosexuals:



    23 And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things.

    24 Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves:

    25 Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.

    26 For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:

    27 And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.

    Agnostic is a weak position. If you have no reason to believe in a thing then reject it. Yeah, their "could" be a god, but why even talk about it? There could be lots of things. It has no meaning in daily life what things might be.

    18 For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who hold the truth in unrighteousness;

    19 Because that which may be known of God is manifest in them; for God hath shewed it unto them.

    20 For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse:

    21 Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened.

    22 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,

    Romans 3


    1What advantage then hath the Jew? or what profit is there of circumcision?


    2Much every way: chiefly, because that unto them were committed the oracles of God.


    3For what if some did not believe? shall their unbelief make the faith of God without effect?


    4God forbid: yea, let God be true, but every man a liar; as it is written,

    That thou mightest be justified in thy sayings,

    And mightest overcome when thou art judged.


    5But if our unrighteousness commend the righteousness of God, what shall we say? Is God unrighteous who taketh vengeance? (I speak as a man)


    6God forbid: for then how shall God judge the world?


    7For if the truth of God hath more abounded through my lie unto his glory; why yet am I also judged as a sinner?


    8And not rather, (as we be slanderously reported, and as some affirm that we say,) Let us do evil, that good may come? whose damnation is just.


    9What then? are we better than they? No, in no wise: for we have before proved both Jews and Gentiles, that they are all under sin;


    10as it is written,

    There is none righteous, no, not one:


    11There is none that understandeth,

    There is none that seeketh after God.


    12They are all gone out of the way, they are together become unprofitable;

    There is none that doeth good, no, not one.


    13Their throat is an open sepulchre;

    With their tongues they have used deceit;

    The poison of asps is under their lips:


    14Whose mouth is full of cursing and bitterness:


    15Their feet are swift to shed blood:


    16Destruction and misery are in their ways:


    17And the way of peace have they not known:


    18There is no fear of God before their eyes.


    19Now we know that what things soever the law saith, it saith to them who are under the law: that every mouth may be stopped, and all the world may become guilty before God.


    20Therefore by the deeds of the law there shall no flesh be justified in his sight: for by the law is the knowledge of sin.

    God's Saving Gift


    21But now the righteousness of God without the law is manifested, being witnessed by the law and the prophets;


    22even the righteousness of God which is by faith of Jesus Christ unto all and upon all them that believe: for there is no difference:


    23for all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;


    24being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus:


    25whom God hath set forth to be a propitiation through faith in his blood, to declare his righteousness for the remission of sins that are past, through the forbearance of God;


    26to declare, I say, at this time his righteousness: that he might be just, and the justifier of him which believeth in Jesus.


    27Where is boasting then? It is excluded. By what law? of works? Nay: but by the law of faith.


    28Therefore we conclude that a man is justified by faith without the deeds of the law.


    29Is he the God of the Jews only? is he not also of the Gentiles? Yes, of the Gentiles also:


    30seeing it is one God, which shall justify the circumcision by faith, and uncircumcision through faith. 31Do we then make void the law through faith? God forbid: yea, we establish the law.