Training vs experience...

  • Misleading thread title actually since they are not mutually exclusive nor is one a superior method over the other... ideally you want both.

    Soo training... The good.... it gives you all the rudimentary skills you need with the least expenditure of rounds fired. It also can... but not always... teach you things you would never learn on your own.

    The bad.... it is often very specific. For one type of shooting or firearm. The skills learned will rarely transfer seamlessly to other styles of shooting or firearms although the basics never go out of style.

    Sooo... just shooting. Worst case scenario... you buy a gun and are completely on your own. You learn each thing about the art of shooting by simply shooting thousands and thousands of rounds. Some people are 'naturals' but by no means most. Most of us learn by having someone who... is a good shooter or maybe no better than most... show them the rudimentary stuff. Trigger.... grip.... sight picture....even stance... all these things can be learned by shooting countless thousands of rounds. Expensive... but fun for some. I learned to hip shoot by shooting thousands of rounds at small objects at short/medium range. There really was no 'training' for such a thing. Grip... bloody hands or black eyes can teach you that. Sight picture.... again... thousands of rounds combined with trigger control. Stance... breathing.... this is where training can save years.

    Ok... one thing people will say is that bad habits are just re enforced by doing the same thing over and over. On the surface this is correct. And is wise advice for most people. How many rounds does the average shooter shoot a year? Some people I take shooting I take em like 5 times a year.... they have jobs whatever... they may shoot 100 or 200 rounds a session.... that is a thousand rounds a year or less? I used to shoot more than that a week (no more) All my bad habits.... those that made me less accurate say.... melted away after 20-50k rounds... LOL... What I learned was.... when I did good... I tried to do that again. A bowling pin shooter I knew who was famous at the time.... saw me shoot at pins. Three were perfect... three more shots were not. He simply said...."do what you did on the first three"

    Sooo shooting a lot... we all have good days and bad days. On a bad day? honestly? I have no clue what is going wrong... or.. .very little clue. On a good day... I can tell when the gun goes off if it was a good shot or not.


    "Don't let it end like this. Tell them I said something."

    Pancho Villa, last words (1877 - 1923)

  • Ok... here is some crossover stuff. No spittingbull... your wearing a dress does not count.

    dry firing.... all the fucking rage in the 70's... dry fire at the TV for hours. except that time the gun was actually loaded but....

    We did shit like put a dime balanced on the rear sight and squeeeeezed the trigger... hell... just balancing the thing was crazy... probly a useless thing to do. The upside was that it also smoothed the action.

    Nowdays? laser systems.... full size BB guns on Co2... All kinda things that is basically dry firing. A step up from that is 22 lr.... As a kid I learned most stuff using 22 lr in handguns and rifles... more importantly handguns since rifles are simple by comparison. I could afford to shoot a brick (500 rounds) in a day... and mostly wished I had more ammo.

    IN MY OPINION The next step up is a precision 38 spl revolver. As accurate as a 22 pistol but..... now we learn about ..... flinching. Yeah... I know... you don't flinch. Well.... I do. It happens sometimes after 6 rounds and sometimes after 60... but it happens.


    "Don't let it end like this. Tell them I said something."

    Pancho Villa, last words (1877 - 1923)

  • See spaz thats what I'm talking about,fags run in your family not mine and wearing a dress well if Janice like you in a dress who am I to throw stones. Have another coors you'll stop shaking,then go drive and shoot your guns,what could go wrong... Oh maybe you prefer a bud lite,then you can shoot a defenseless little can...

  • Having faggots in your extended family and liking show tunes doesn't make you a faggot. Sucking dick makes you a faggot. Second hand dick sucking makes you a faggot. Watching sports makes you a faggot.

  • Being a dick that makes fun of others for having firearms and coming into a gun forum makes you a faggot.


    Well I guess you're a faggot for bring me into this thread. Fags are to fag I guess,spaz did you like that little pink dress?

    Now tell me were the bad man touched you,or point it out on your dolly.

  • no training needed. use a .22lr and if you can hit a bunny on the fly at 100 metres or more most of the time then you know you can shoot better than most soldiers. step it up to an ar15 and do the same.

    it takes hundreds of rounds of practice but it becomes natural. you fire both eyes open.

    i couldn't do it now though. i shake too much and beside i will never own and use a firearm again

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