New British PM

  • Jeros is not happy.

    Of all tyrannies a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It may be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies, The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end, for they do so with the approval of their own conscience. — C.S. Lewis

    :this

  • Dude looks like Trump on a bad hair day.

    Of all tyrannies a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It may be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies, The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end, for they do so with the approval of their own conscience. — C.S. Lewis

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  • about time Boris got in... he is a one of the lads type guy... will make for a good government...


    I was reading an article yesterday... the big question people are asking is... will his girlfriend be moving in to 10 downing street

  • Jeros is not happy.

    Actually this might be the death knell for the Conservatives as a mainline party.



    He has been cultivating the image of a posh buffoon for years, and has been the butt of every joke, now he has placed into the highest point of government.

    If it all goes to shit, which it will, the conservatives have a sacrificial lamb to blame for everything. And his own party detractors are going to be chomping at the bit if he does not play to their tune, which he won’t, simply as there is no clear party position at the moment.



    The thing is they have to deliver Brexit lest Nigel Farage's Brexit party take the lead over them. But There is no way to do this without economic chaos, hence why it not has happened already.

    The Conservatives are in an utter no win situation and they know it, Cameron knew it, May knew it, now they put Boris up as their whipping boy.



    The UK is staring down the barrel of a no deal Brexit, and triggering Scottish independence and even a possible Irish reunification.


    Making of beds and all that.

  • You can hardly blame him for the no deal Brexit and the others. He hasn't even taken office yet. Of course his opposition will blame him anyhow. We see the same nonsense here.


  • You sound like a typical TDS sufferer hoping for the downfall of your economy so your political nemesis looks bad.

    Of all tyrannies a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It may be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies, The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end, for they do so with the approval of their own conscience. — C.S. Lewis

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  • You sound like a typical TDS sufferer hoping for the downfall of your economy so your political nemesis looks bad.

    We are past theoretical now and have to deal with the harsh reality.

    We are losing a significant chunk of what makes our economy work, cheap and easy trade with Europe.

    What we must do now is ride it out as best we can and focus on keeping things ticking over.

  • The way you put it.... gB is nothing more than a dependent European parasite rather that an equal viable entity. If you're really as pathetic and worthless as you seem to think, you guys are really in trouble. BUT... If you've got something of value to offer the world market, you'll be just fine.

    Of all tyrannies a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It may be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies, The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end, for they do so with the approval of their own conscience. — C.S. Lewis

    :this

  • The way you put it.... gB is nothing more than a dependent European parasite rather that an equal viable entity. If you're really as pathetic and worthless as you seem to think, you guys are really in trouble. BUT... If you've got something of value to offer the world market, you'll be just fine.


    "This island is made mainly of coal and surrounded by fish. Only an organising genius could produce a shortage of coal and fish at the same time."


    Yeah our track record is not great.


    There are many things we could do to return to the economic world stage, but that takes time, which we do not have, so at the moment its going to have to be financial services.


    Oil and gas is a major thing, but much of that will default to Scotland in the upcoming split.

  • Somebody on the radio today made the claim that the reason there has been no negotiated Brexit already is that the Euros knew May was too soft to actually leave without a deal. So they just strung her along, essentially not negotiating in good faith, to try to prevent any Brexit from actually happening. He concluded, therefore, that the Euros will actually negotiate something Britain will accept this time because Jeros' "baffoon" will have no qualms leaving without an agreement.


    No idea if it holds water, but I found it interesting and entirely plausible.

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  • Somebody on the radio today made the claim that the reason there has been no negotiated Brexit already is that the Euros knew May was too soft to actually leave without a deal. So they just strung her along, essentially not negotiating in good faith, to try to prevent any Brexit from actually happening. He concluded, therefore, that the Euros will actually negotiate something Britain will accept this time because Jeros' "baffoon" will have no qualms leaving without an agreement.


    No idea if it holds water, but I found it interesting and entirely plausible.

    EU have stated they are not willing to negotiate further, they worked out a deal with May that was rejected by parliament, the other option is No deal at all, which is what parliament are also trying to avoid as it would be catastrophic, things as basic as securing sufficient imports of food and basic provisions would either cease or have the price jacked up on us. Not to mention disruption to those things we do export.



    We expected to get a deal on our terms, Europe just turned and laughed. After all, we import far far more from Europe than China and the US combined, Germany ironically, being the biggest producer of UK imports.

    And attracting any sort of major industry (manufacturing is now about 10% of our economy) is difficult due to the relative strength of the pound.



    Its not that anyone did anything WRONG as such, its just something like a Brexit would take a decade to sort out in a way that does not cause severe harm.



    We will certainly come out of it stronger, we always do, but its going to be EXPENSIVE, and difficult to do, and in the end, it will be the working and middle class who get squeezed for cash to pay for it, and there is little blood left to get out of that stone.

  • If Britain works out a favorable deal with the US, could it not work out just as well for them? I don't see how an outfit who's anal-retentive enough to tell you how strong your vacuum cleaner can be, could ever be a good partner in anything

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  • We expected to get a deal on our terms, Europe just turned and laughed. After all, we import far far more from Europe than China and the US combined, Germany ironically, being the biggest producer of UK imports.


    That is in the UK's favor. Not Germany's or the EU's. You can always buy more stuff elsewhere.

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  • Before the American revolution.... every civilized country was a monarchy.... 20 years latter almost none were except maybe in name only.


    Before Trump all the politicians were cookie cutter do nothings. Now? every country wants a cheaper version of Trump.


    I bet the new guy can make a deal with Trump on trade that will be good for both countries.


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