pretty fair assessment on chink tariffs.

  • Complicated deal.. we been getting fucked for many decades and the solution was gonna be painful one way or the other. We let china become a powerhouse under our watch.. politicians who had no idea how business works and had advisers who.... new barely any more.


    Good news is.. Trump did it right for America and American interest.. and.. that it is taking far less time than ANYONE could have imagined.


    They are not on the ropes. But they fell in domination.. and can see even more of a plummet in their role in the world economy.. Ironically.. to get over this.. they are outsourcing to nations like Vietnam or other asian countries that are even more depressed than them https://www.forbes.com/sites/k…for-tariffs/#1a61a9a51fae


    ONE THING THAT IS IMPORTANT..........................if china had a $15 an hour minimum wage the would be crushed economically There is simply no way they could compete with an American workforce that produces 3 times as much per hour.


    lazs

    "Don't let it end like this. Tell them I said something."



    Pancho Villa, last words (1877 - 1923)

  • That is interesting. A lot of chain=reaction scenarios going on. The bottom line though is that we cannot just let China rape us. This is fixing that issue for sure, one way or another.


    Long Term we win no matter what, because we are the consumers for most of the crap they make. It doesn't have to be made in China.

  • Yep... pretty much... we were headed towards an economic cliff.... we do need to bring basic manufacturing and the skills it takes to run it back here. that is job number one.


    lazs

    "Don't let it end like this. Tell them I said something."



    Pancho Villa, last words (1877 - 1923)

  • We could just seize their bank assets.

    Of all tyrannies a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It may be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies, The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end, for they do so with the approval of their own conscience. — C.S. Lewis

    :this

  • LOL... I actually can't believe he said that. How that would bring jobs and manufacturing to America somehow eludes me.


    lazs

    "Don't let it end like this. Tell them I said something."



    Pancho Villa, last words (1877 - 1923)

  • MNN on 6/18/19

    "chump will assuredly lose 2020 barring an event that cancels the election - he just cant keep his scummy yankee mouth shut"


    MNN on 6/24/19

    Chump is going to tote an ass kicking nov 2020


    MNN on 11/14/19

    fact is it is within a year of the election, the Senate will not allow him to appoint her successor. Nov 2020 he will lose.

  • THAT INSANE ORANGE MAN IS GOING TO GET US ALL KILT!!!!1!1!!!1

    Of all tyrannies a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It may be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies, The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end, for they do so with the approval of their own conscience. — C.S. Lewis

    :this

  • Ya'll are well aware of how generous and honest I am... so I'll give credit where it's due:


    Tinyhands may be a stupid orange cunt, but he hasn't yet fucked up too badly with his tarriffs. Well, except where the farm economy is concerned. And since farmers apparently LIKE to take it in the ass... I guess that's a win/win.


    He did kill TPP, and I appreciate that much :popcorn

  • Ya'll are well aware of how generous and honest I am... so I'll give credit where it's due:


    Tinyhands may be a stupid orange cunt, but he hasn't yet fucked up too badly with his tarriffs. Well, except where the farm economy is concerned. And since farmers apparently LIKE to take it in the ass... I guess that's a win/win.


    He did kill TPP, and I appreciate that much :popcorn

    AG is the most highly subsidized industry in the US. I read the other day that like 40% of all crops grown are disposed of per year. That tells me we over produce by a large margin. Can you imagine what would happen if automakers scrapped 40% of new vehicles or 40% of new housing was simply torn down per year?

    MNN on 6/18/19

    "chump will assuredly lose 2020 barring an event that cancels the election - he just cant keep his scummy yankee mouth shut"


    MNN on 6/24/19

    Chump is going to tote an ass kicking nov 2020


    MNN on 11/14/19

    fact is it is within a year of the election, the Senate will not allow him to appoint her successor. Nov 2020 he will lose.

  • Typical rock-ribbed capitalists recieving a check from the government.


    Not saying I oppose that necessarily. Just saying that like most people in this forum, those Teabillies are my fellow Socialists.

  • Yeah but you know how I feel about the whole "if you ever took anything that the government promised you when they stole it from you in the first place then you are no better than Lenin" thing.


    lazs

    "Don't let it end like this. Tell them I said something."



    Pancho Villa, last words (1877 - 1923)

  • give it a rest.. you know exactly how I feel and trolling it does not help your cause. That is the problem isn't it? your side lies every fucking time about what the rest of the country is doing and for why.


    But..your side has gone full retard.. they are not just saying give a government check to all those Americans who never earned it... they are saying give a check to any illegal who manages to cross the border.


    At some point there will be no engineering jobs cause there will be nothing left to build here.


    lazs

    "Don't let it end like this. Tell them I said something."



    Pancho Villa, last words (1877 - 1923)

  • I fully agree... NZ has a massive work force... they pay a bunch of people to do nothing.... they should build big plants with their own town, daycares, apartments etc etc (like the Japs have with the likes of the big car companies)... if you want the dole you work...and get topped up by the manufacturer.... one you get manufacturing back on shore....which helps the country...and you increase the countries skill base...


    It stops the export of metal, Plastic and glass... (which we now send to china) and every other resource since you can use it on you own land... become more self sufficient.... cost... huge now since they let all the big name manufacturers leave...but long term... can't really be bad....


    But that is me... the pub politician....

  • You are a bitter old Socialist ain't you? Nobody is forcing you to cash those checks... money you know damn well was taken from other people by force.


    But I know... you *deserve* those freebies. And so does everybody else cashing those sweet government checks if you ask them.


    I won't argue with you on one point though. The Dems HAVE gone full-retard with their woke moral panic.

  • So expecting .gov to live up to their end of a bargain that you were forced into in the first place under the threat of great bodily harm is socialism?

    Of all tyrannies a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It may be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies, The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end, for they do so with the approval of their own conscience. — C.S. Lewis

    :this

  • No one is forcing a widow to cash in the life insurance policy of her poor dead husband even if she thought he was wasting their money on it.


    I was Forced to pay into socialist programs... if me taking what I was promised makes those programs go broke? so much the better. Most people die before they get a tenth of what the government extorted from them.


    In my case? surviving is the best revenge. They took it against my will... with a promise of milk and honey down the road. They thought I would never live to collect..... HA fucking Ha you commie fucks.


    lazs

    "Don't let it end like this. Tell them I said something."



    Pancho Villa, last words (1877 - 1923)