Tesla charging stations at local mall

  • We're at that point. Capex is under depreciation, meaning they can not replace factory equipment faster than it is wearing out and support everything else they have to. Service is not scaling with production. Q2 demand pull forward has q3/q4 looking horrendous. They have hit max production for their facility and can not achieve any further price reductions from scaling. Losing $7000 per car at this point is exactly where they are at, and yes, the financials matter. If you have even a remote interest in Tesla you should be following them, but you're not.


    To survive they have to fund raise based on the promise of FSD.

    Oh I follow them, right into the fucking ground if they go that way. That's one reason I defended them as much as possible.

    MNN on 6/18/19

    "chump will assuredly lose 2020 barring an event that cancels the election - he just cant keep his scummy yankee mouth shut"


    MNN on 6/24/19

    Chump is going to tote an ass kicking nov 2020


    MNN on 11/14/19

    fact is it is within a year of the election, the Senate will not allow him to appoint her successor. Nov 2020 he will lose.

  • One of the things that is killing electric cars is cheap fuel. lefties know this. California is doing its best to make fuel prices really high.


    lazs

    yet another thing nj is copying. 2 years ago, gas was below 2 bucks a gallon. we were one of the cheapest gas taxed states in the union. then christy signed the demonrat bill raising the gas tax by over .25c a gallon. it was put on the ballot first, and these dumbasses in this state voted for it. what they all missed was that there was a target. if that target isn't hit, then the tax automatically raises till that target is hit. now, people that used to buy their gas here rather than ny or pa 'cause it was cheaper buy their gas in their own states. residents of nj that work in ny and pa and used to be sure to buy it here now also buy it in those states, 'cause there's no benefit to waiting. so the tax goes up. it's supposedly gonna go up again, 'cause it still hasn't hit the target.

  • Right into the ground. Damn dude, the money is in the short.


    "No analyst could have modeled a 1,158% increase in Tesla’s vehicle unit sales (Tesla delivered 7,579 cars in 2Q2014 and 95,356 in 2Q2019) and predicted an even greater loss, or that the five years in between those endpoints would produce a cumulative $4.2 billion operating loss. That defies all norms for industrial companies and the economies of scale and fixed cost amortization that are assumed to occur as production increases."


    Total Debt

    2Q2014 $2.36bb

    2Q2019 $13.03bb


    Operating Return on Average Assets 3Q2014-2Q2019

    -22.8%

  • Followed by another Solarcity fire lawsuit from USAA, and now whistleblowers coming forward about defective connectors that are combusting. Tesla is allegedly doing a stealth recall to get them replaced. That's some 1980s Audi shit right there lol, maybe they do have a future as an oem.

  • Right into the ground. Damn dude, the money is in the short.

    Short term yes it is, but I don't have that choice. If they survive the future's so bright I gotta wear shades. If they end up filing, then lets just say I'll be starting over from scratch. And I'll be like this,


    dr. strangelove stanley kubrick gif

    MNN on 6/18/19

    "chump will assuredly lose 2020 barring an event that cancels the election - he just cant keep his scummy yankee mouth shut"


    MNN on 6/24/19

    Chump is going to tote an ass kicking nov 2020


    MNN on 11/14/19

    fact is it is within a year of the election, the Senate will not allow him to appoint her successor. Nov 2020 he will lose.

  • Short term yes it is, but I don't have that choice. If they survive the future's so bright I gotta wear shades. If they end up filing, then lets just say I'll be starting over from scratch. And I'll be like this,


    dr. strangelove stanley kubrick gif


    Tough spot. What comes next is mandatory fundraising to stay afloat. Make plans for when you are left holding the bag.

  • I don't seem fuel prices rising much on their own for a long time... it will have to be artificial for some agenda or another. get us into unicorn or electric powered cars 'for our own good' so long as fuel prices stay low electric cars are gonna have a tough time competing.


    lazs

    "Don't let it end like this. Tell them I said something."



    Pancho Villa, last words (1877 - 1923)

  • Yep... you got it... right now they are saying they have to raise fuel prices because over all fuel mileage is so good that it hurts the revenue. yet... they still want CAFE standards of 50 mpg... irony.


    lazs

    "Don't let it end like this. Tell them I said something."



    Pancho Villa, last words (1877 - 1923)


  • Tough spot. What comes next is mandatory fundraising to stay afloat. Make plans for when you are left holding the bag.

    What happens a big company like them files is that people like me will get 2 letters. The first will say they've filed and invoices from (x) to (x) are now invalid, gone poof. The second is the court order that says you have to continue providing them parts at the same price without interruption.

    MNN on 6/18/19

    "chump will assuredly lose 2020 barring an event that cancels the election - he just cant keep his scummy yankee mouth shut"


    MNN on 6/24/19

    Chump is going to tote an ass kicking nov 2020


    MNN on 11/14/19

    fact is it is within a year of the election, the Senate will not allow him to appoint her successor. Nov 2020 he will lose.

  • What happens a big company like them files is that people like me will get 2 letters. The first will say they've filed and invoices from (x) to (x) are now invalid, gone poof. The second is the court order that says you have to continue providing them parts at the same price without interruption.

    Don't worry. In fucking you over via a legal system that invariably gives preference to the party with the most money... they're 'creating wealth'.


    So quit your bitching, commie.

    Nothing I say nor have ever said should be taken too seriously by anyone ever. Particularly the wildly contradictory things I write on internet forums.


    I'm just throwing ideas around. Trying to see what sticks.


    Turtles all the way down.

  • Focus Lazshole.


    In RW's situation above... who *created* the wealth (those parts not being paid for)?


    Who got to keep the wealth via our pay-for-play legal system?


    That's capitalism in a nutshell. Capitalism can't exist without state enforcement. And in our case, said state is for sale to the highest bidder.

    Nothing I say nor have ever said should be taken too seriously by anyone ever. Particularly the wildly contradictory things I write on internet forums.


    I'm just throwing ideas around. Trying to see what sticks.


    Turtles all the way down.

  • Twat's not wrong.


    But if shit goes sideways with them i have options. Court order or not there are ways to make them pay or not get parts. For instance my shop would close and reopen under a different name a few miles away.

    It's really the "medium" or bigger guys who have to absorb the loss. Sometimes there are advantages to staying small.

    MNN on 6/18/19

    "chump will assuredly lose 2020 barring an event that cancels the election - he just cant keep his scummy yankee mouth shut"


    MNN on 6/24/19

    Chump is going to tote an ass kicking nov 2020


    MNN on 11/14/19

    fact is it is within a year of the election, the Senate will not allow him to appoint her successor. Nov 2020 he will lose.

  • I( believe I am sorta focused.. twat.. you and I and the middle class are doing better. Ok.. you focus.. how can socialism exist without an all powerful government willing to kill you if you resist? Cuba is a good example.. guys like you and others were doing well.. all of a sudden? get your fucking money out and go to America or get in front of the firing squad.. do you not think there are socialists who think you have too much.. most of which you got with no effort on the backs of the poor?


    lazs

    "Don't let it end like this. Tell them I said something."



    Pancho Villa, last words (1877 - 1923)


  • No that's corporatism.

    "With the first link, the chain is forged. The first speech censured, the first thought forbidden, the first freedom denied, chains us all irrevocably."

  • I( believe I am sorta focused.. twat.. you and I and the middle class are doing better. Ok.. you focus.. how can socialism exist without an all powerful government willing to kill you if you resist? Cuba is a good example.. guys like you and others were doing well.. all of a sudden? get your fucking money out and go to America or get in front of the firing squad.. do you not think there are socialists who think you have too much.. most of which you got with no effort on the backs of the poor?


    lazs

    Neither socialism nor capitalism can exist without a government that can and will use deadly force to implement said economic system.


    Don't pretend you're anarchist. You're way too old to be an edge-lord.

    Nothing I say nor have ever said should be taken too seriously by anyone ever. Particularly the wildly contradictory things I write on internet forums.


    I'm just throwing ideas around. Trying to see what sticks.


    Turtles all the way down.

  • I'm not an anarchist, but capitalism is a force of nature, not a system. Even if all humans were to disappear there would still be capitalism on this planet. Animals like squirrels would still forage and store food, and defend their property from those who wish to steal it. Predators would still lay claim to their hunting grounds and defend their property from intruders. Some primates even trade food and items for services, even sex work...

    "With the first link, the chain is forged. The first speech censured, the first thought forbidden, the first freedom denied, chains us all irrevocably."