So I nipped in to the Tesla dealership

I'll stick to dino-piss powered kthxbye.

I like the way they look.

Quote from Jeros

Well your gonna stop anyway as its like a 14-18 hour round trip.

I've driven 20 hours straight before.

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I've driven 20 hours straight before.

I may have also done the same... Far from being 'sober'

They should offer a gas powered "power pack" trailer for charging on the go for extended trips..

Seriously, and it wouldn't be that big of a deal.

The tech really is not there.... there.. I said it. I am not a bleeding edge kinda guy... not big on being a martyr. Of course the more they sell the better they will get. Because the people making the batteries will learn more with more money... same for the motors and the charging systems and the....everything.

Wake me up when they get cheap enough to make it worthwhile. Look... buy an electric car... for say 50k... not gonna get any used ones yet. Buy an old clunker that gets 25 mpg. but you only paid 3-5k for it. the payments on the electric car are gonna be WAY more than gas costs.... and even if you wear out a clunker or two before the electric dies (not counting some incidentals that will be costly) .... you are still gonna be way the fuck cheaper running the conventional car.

lazs

Guy I know (vaguely) has a prenus... the newer ones... I think him and I drive about the same miles a month average for a year. he was bragging his fuel costs were $20 a month. Mine run $80 a month... His car payment is over $400 a month... along with maximum insurance (full coverage)... my car payments are zero and my insurance is half his.

lazs

COAL POWER BABY!

Yeah but... If they could come up with a $12k sedan that doesn't look like a pretentious asshole owns it that'll go 60 miles on a charge I'd be all over it. My jeep only burns about $12 worth of gas a week going to and from work but if I....

I can't remember where I was going with this...

Shit I burn 100gal diesel a day some days. Ag diesel but still.

In the trucks we burn 100gal road diesel every other day.

Thing is.... conventional vehicles including turbo diesel cars are getting in the 40+ mpg range. and most look like normal cars. cause... well... they are normal cars and not a virtue signaling bullshitter.

You can buy used cars that are getting over 35mpg easy... closer to 40.

lazs

The government is talking about ending the subsidy on electric cars.

That'll kill it.

yep.. everyone wants to invent a better battery or solar panel.. they don't need the government.

lazs

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I think the bank bailout was needed.

I think it was too but I don't think the coin should have been gifted to them, I think it should have been in the form of loans and going rate interest.

We rewarded bad behavior

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I'm not sure if it was a reward so much as a parachute. I think the whole thing sucked, but it had to be done. It's not just the banks that took advantage and it was not just the banks that would have splattered on the ground.

^ This, as it's probably as true as anything. It wasn't just mortgages on the line, but a whole lot of businesses, large and small were as well.

Kind of like what colleges did when they changed the student loan plans.

Bastards.

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Shit I burn 100gal diesel a day some days. Ag diesel but still.

In the trucks we burn 100gal road diesel every other day.

Ain't that the truth. I go through about 60gallon a day on the truck, 11 every week on the machine.

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and Indy has roots in the sleazy car salesman industry so ofcourse he's against them.

Tesla has dealerships. They just don't have franchised dealerships.

A very low build quality car, that's 30% overweight, using a production model that's pre-Toyota Way, operating as a cult, just isn't my thing.