God is not omniscient.

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'you'? sorry fishbaum... at first I thought you were talking to me? But none of what you said applies to me.

And saying that freewill depends on no one including god knowing where it will lead? That is the cop out to me. He could stop you from doing it. basically? that is all that matters. As is the case most of the time? you are overthinking it.

lazs

Does that make sense? Before the first speck of dust was created, God already would know every single decision that would ever be made. He would know every outcome. You would feel like you had a choice, but God is at all points in time, so he's present at the points before, during and after the decision simultaneously. Knowing this, why set it in motion, and then get mad, like you are disappointed or angry? That's psycho.

I'm going to create a being. I already know every single decision and act he will take, even though I haven't even created him yet. I know he will fail, and so after living 60 years as a failure I will then condemn him to an eternity of suffering. I am creating a being that I know will fail, and that he will be sent to eternal suffering and I am a kind and benevolent father.

Yahweh is more proof that the good guys do not always win. The tribe with the most psycho god won out in ancient Canaan and now my people bend the knee.

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Him getting mad is how we see it. It is us ascribing human characteristics on god.

Not getting your point here. do you somehow think you are playing chess with god? And you are winning?

He'd need to exist to play chess with. This is just basic history. A god created in a time where gods had finite power and lived in time. Over time he was ascribed greater and greater power, but it contradicts all the stories. So bow to the god of the Jews too? Why not Ganesh or Zoroaster or whatever?

Because where you are born determines your religious affiliation. You are far more likely to just conform than to ever give the whole thing any thought. The point is no greater than that. Just as you do in politics, so you do in religion. It goes to the same place all my points go to(Holden, insert gay one-line snarky quip here): Do you really own what you know. To what extent are you just on automatic.

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So what about Bento?

What is bento? I know bento box from sushi restaurants, but what are you saying exactly.