Fishbaum's New Jersey Vacation

Wait, you mean there is a people who have a creation myth that centers them and no one else? Wow! That is really super unique.

Take it up with your Creator, next time you speak with him. I would advise sooner rather than later, but it's a free country.

Joolous, not Jealous.

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Take it up with your Creator, next time you speak with him. I would advise sooner rather than later, but it's a free country.

Are you a Jew from what they call today Israel?

Joos own the Nooz

Oooh buoy François joos on fieuh naw.

Barry Gibbzuz

Chargeur JOOif

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Are you a Jew from what they call today Israel?

I'll answer for you to close this out. No, you aren't from Israel, no you aren't a Jew. You're from a country that was once enslaved by the Romans. Maybe your ancestors converted so they could trade and make money or maybe it was at sword point. Maybe they saw the Danube turned red with heretics. Maybe they were in a place after the Roman collapse where a wanna be king made a deal with the only institution left - the church. He'd give them what they wanted: Land and money and power over the peasants, and they'd tell the sheep that god wanted him more than the other guy.

And now you are groveling at the feet of a foreign god. Still a slave centuries later. The great Rambam himself though Christianity was useful because it got all these new people to worship their god and obey the Torah. Go for it, serve, I'll pass.

Oh the Joomanity!

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I'll answer for you to close this out. No, you aren't from Israel, no you aren't a Jew. You're from a country that was once enslaved by the Romans. Maybe your ancestors converted so they could trade and make money or maybe it was at sword point. Maybe they saw the Danube turned red with heretics. Maybe they were in a place after the Roman collapse where a wanna be king made a deal with the only institution left - the church. He'd give them what they wanted: Land and money and power over the peasants, and they'd tell the sheep that god wanted him more than the other guy.

And now you are groveling at the feet of a foreign god. Still a slave centuries later. The great Rambam himself though Christianity was useful because it got all these new people to worship their god and obey the Torah. Go for it, serve, I'll pass.

Are you Greek? No? Then WTF are you doing fooling around with Nyx? Show me any god and I'll show you a cultural import from another place and time. Christianity isn't remotely unique in that.

What were our European ancestors doing prior to Rome and the Christianity they brought? Jack shit is what they were doing. And I hate to break it to you with your firm grasp of high school level history, but just about any religion you can name was forced on said population at some point and in some manner. So fucking what? Am I supposed to mourn something that was lost a thousand years ago when Rome brought civilization to Europe? That ship has sailed. Throwing away a millennia or two of your own culture won't change it.

European Christianity just isn't the same thing as Christianity in the Middle East, Africa, Asia, etc. That's because older European culture (stories, practices, attitudes, history, folklore) is interwoven with Christianity. If you have any cultural link at all with your Glorious Aryan Ancestors, it is via Christianity.

Tell Odin I said hello and fuck off.

I have to say though, the Joo/Old Testament God of old is more appealing to me than the love your enemy, sandal wearing, fish dispensing, water walking Jazis one. I'm more down with the God of Spite, Vengeance, Retribution and Revenge... crush thy enemies etc. etc. etc.

Hat tip Joos.

Sorry, Jehovah is for the Jews. Jesus is for the Jentiles.

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Sorry, Jehovah is for the Jews. Jesus is for the Jentiles.

Jehovah Elohim

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Sorry, Jehovah is for the Jews. Jesus is for the Jentiles.

Well, then I shall incant the Jesus for the nice moments in life, and the Jehovah for the rough and tumble.

8 Thy daughters that are in the field, he shall kill with the sword: and he shall compass thee with forts, and shall cast up a mount round about: and he shall lift up the buckler against thee.

9 And he shall set engines of war and battering rams against thy walls, and shall destroy thy towers with his arms.

10 By reason of the multitude of his horses, their dust shall cover thee: thy walls shall shake at the noise of the horsemen, and wheels, and chariots, when they shall go in at thy gates, as by the entrance of a city that is destroyed.

11 With the hoofs of his horses he shall tread down all thy streets, thy people he shall kill with the sword, and thy famous statues shall fall to the ground.

7 “ ‘Get ready; be prepared, you and all the hordes gathered about you, and take command of them.

8 After many days you will be called to arms. In future years you will invade a land that has recovered from war, whose people were gathered from many nations to the mountains of Israel, which had long been desolate. They had been brought out from the nations, and now all of them live in safety.

9 You and all your troops and the many nations with you will go up, advancing like a storm; you will be like a cloud covering the land.

10 “ ‘This is what the Sovereign LORD says: On that day thoughts will come into your mind and you will devise an evil scheme.

11 You will say, “I will invade a land of unwalled villages; I will attack a peaceful and unsuspecting people—all of them living without walls and without gates and bars.

12 I will plunder and loot and turn my hand against the resettled ruins and the people gathered from the nations, rich in livestock and goods, living at the center of the land. ”