Sorry, Jehovah is for the Jews. Jesus is for the Jentiles.
You don't believe in a single god? Jesus supposedly came to fulfill the Torah, not change it. Not one jot or tittle. Except of course when he doesn't! The bible seems contradictory to you because it's a mishmash of nonsense meant to pull in various factions. The Petrine faction that insisted on conversion and Torah law, the Pauline faction that wanted Jews to keep doing their élite thing and Gentiles to get the silver package to heaven. The Nazoreans, the Essenes...and so on. Even the cult of Simon Magus. Of course in Peter's writing, Simon could have been Paul. Paul was considered a gnostic heretic and wasn't even included in many early Christian sects. Tertullian certainly considered him a heretic.
Let me ask you this? Is God omniscient, omnipotent, and omnipresent?
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You don't believe in a single god? Jesus supposedly came to fulfill the Torah, not change it. Not one jot or tittle. Except of course when he doesn't! The bible seems contradictory to you because it's a mishmash of nonsense meant to pull in various factions. The Petrine faction that insisted on conversion and Torah law, the Pauline faction that wanted Jews to keep doing their élite thing and Gentiles to get the silver package to heaven. The Nazoreans, the Essenes...and so on. Even the cult of Simon Magus. Of course in Peter's writing, Simon could have been Paul. Paul was considered a gnostic heretic and wasn't even included in many early Christian sects. Tertullian certainly considered him a heretic.
Let me ask you this? Is God omniscient, omnipotent, and omnipresent?
Easy question.
He certainly is.
So magic that he holds the universe yet resides in your heart.
You people should consider the LemGoatian Gospel.
You don't believe in a single god? Jesus supposedly came to fulfill the Torah, not change it. Not one jot or tittle. Except of course when he doesn't! The bible seems contradictory to you because it's a mishmash of nonsense meant to pull in various factions. The Petrine faction that insisted on conversion and Torah law, the Pauline faction that wanted Jews to keep doing their élite thing and Gentiles to get the silver package to heaven. The Nazoreans, the Essenes...and so on. Even the cult of Simon Magus. Of course in Peter's writing, Simon could have been Paul. Paul was considered a gnostic heretic and wasn't even included in many early Christian sects. Tertullian certainly considered him a heretic.
Let me ask you this? Is God omniscient, omnipotent, and omnipresent?
God is what he is. And He is definitely not dependent on our understanding or explanations.
Coming from Oklabama I'd guess you grew up with some notion of an inerrant, divinely inspired Bible? Congrats on seeing past that.
We are not called to worship a book, nor a collection of books.
Jebus is magic.
Exactly.
So is there are creator?
Does order indeed evolve from chaos?
Not in my shop nor truck.
Neither your shop nor your truck are alive.
Order evolves from chaos all day, every day.
Is the universe alive?
Is the universe ordered?
Order eminates from the creator.
Chaos from random
Yes.
And for Mr. Fish, I would advise that one should not confuse the moon with the finger pointing to the moon.
The classic Christian dodge. It's all beyond our understanding so don't dare use reason, just obey. Okay, so if it's all beyond reason it's down to just picking a god. Why not Zoroaster or Ganesh or something. You are an atheist too, I just believe in one less god than you.
Also, whose shade are you? Storch, it'd be weird if you were debating yourself.
The classic Christian dodge. It's all beyond our understanding so don't dare use reason, just obey. Okay, so if it's all beyond reason it's down to just picking a god. Why not Zoroaster or Ganesh or something. You are an atheist too, I just believe in one less god than you.
It's not a rational choice. If it was, that wouldn't be faith.
You don't get to choose the god of our fathers. But he may choose you via prevenient grace.
He's not the god of my fathers.
An unbroken line of Pagans since time immemorial huh?
Horseshit.
I'm wondering who he is as well.
Also how is he a HerpesProtologist?
An unbroken line of Pagans since time immemorial huh?
Horseshit.
Of course not, any fool knows that. But I'm not a slave to Rome like my forefathers. I don't live in the time of a rich and powerful church that would torture me to death for daring not to bend a knee to the Jew god. Fortunately reason and freedom came back into the world for many of us. The rest are far from the real and touchable actual wonders of the world and the universe, just waiting to die. Born guilty and worthless, begging to be forgiven. Subjugated. Meek. Daring to not upset Caesar. Fuck them.
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