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    Trump told Putin that if he went into the Ukraine, he'd bomb the shit out of the Kremlin. Putin bidened his time. Trump also told Germany that their lack of defense and dependance on Russian fuel would fuel Russian aggression. They laughed at him.


    Reason did not drive this decision. The painfully obvious facts in front of them did not motivate Germany to do the very things necessary for their own survival. It wasn't until world leadership became inept enough to allow Russia to mobilize again that they started listening to Trump's advice.


    This is where we are, today.

    You're not wrong again

    What the Fuck was that?

    Some guy Hiroshima, Japan August 6, 1945 08:15:47

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    Some guy Chernobyl, Ukraine SSR April 26, 1986 01:23:03

    Some guy Fukushima Daiichi nuclear plant March 11, 2011 11:28:37

    Hillary Clinton, November 8, 2016 22:07:32

    Secret Service Agent attending Biden/Pope Francis meeting October 29, 2021

    The only reason Germany didn't obliterate Russia in 1942 was because of Anglo-American intervention on behalf of Russia

    What the Fuck was that?

    Some guy Hiroshima, Japan August 6, 1945 08:15:47

    Some guy Nagasaki, Japan August 9, 1945 11:02:44

    Some guy Chernobyl, Ukraine SSR April 26, 1986 01:23:03

    Some guy Fukushima Daiichi nuclear plant March 11, 2011 11:28:37

    Hillary Clinton, November 8, 2016 22:07:32

    Secret Service Agent attending Biden/Pope Francis meeting October 29, 2021

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    Quote from Iron

    Even though Russia under Putin has proven itself aggressive Germany and the rest of Europe are probably less afraid of it now than before this latest aggression against Ukraine.

    We gave them some nice stuff and a load of outdated cold war stuff and the Ruskies struggled against the cold war stuff, hell they struggle AGAINST THE DECADES OLD STUFF THEY GAVE THEM!

    Quote from Iron

    If Russia invaded Germany I think Russia wouldn't last a week. Even without NATO.

    The German army is a shell of what it was at the end of the Cold War. It wasn't long ago that Germany was in the news because of the poor shape it's army is in, at the time, less than 200 Leopard II's were serviceable compared to 2155 in 1993. There are plenty of sources to back up the claim that the German army held field exercises where some of the soldiers carried broom sticks instead of guns.


    If Germany had the same quantity/quality military they had in '93 your statement would likely be correct. Today Germany would only win because of NATO help, specifically American units.

    Drop the brick Rick, it ain't no trick, get yourself free.


    "It's no longer our job to wake the sheep. It's time to wake the other lions."


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    The only reason Germany didn't obliterate Russia in 1942 was because of Anglo-American intervention on behalf of Russia

    I think you're right on this. We gave all kinds of stuff to Uncle Joe via Lend Lease.


    We should've taken Patton's advice.

    Drop the brick Rick, it ain't no trick, get yourself free.


    "It's no longer our job to wake the sheep. It's time to wake the other lions."


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    Absolutely

    What the Fuck was that?

    Some guy Hiroshima, Japan August 6, 1945 08:15:47

    Some guy Nagasaki, Japan August 9, 1945 11:02:44

    Some guy Chernobyl, Ukraine SSR April 26, 1986 01:23:03

    Some guy Fukushima Daiichi nuclear plant March 11, 2011 11:28:37

    Hillary Clinton, November 8, 2016 22:07:32

    Secret Service Agent attending Biden/Pope Francis meeting October 29, 2021

    Russia is in disarray as well. Germany has increased its military spending recently but the Fulda gap is still there.

    What the Fuck was that?

    Some guy Hiroshima, Japan August 6, 1945 08:15:47

    Some guy Nagasaki, Japan August 9, 1945 11:02:44

    Some guy Chernobyl, Ukraine SSR April 26, 1986 01:23:03

    Some guy Fukushima Daiichi nuclear plant March 11, 2011 11:28:37

    Hillary Clinton, November 8, 2016 22:07:32

    Secret Service Agent attending Biden/Pope Francis meeting October 29, 2021

    We've seen what Russia can do. They are now relying on Iran for weapons. Germany does have some military capability and the ability to ramp up fast. I suspect their war making morale is far superior to Russia's. Strikes between capital cities today are not like they were in WWII. Weapons of all sorts can reach out a lot further and a lot faster now than then.


    But it's all hypothetical and very unlikely to happen.

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