Supreme Court won't block release of Trump documents to Jan 6 committee

actually it is

What is? Where you talking to me?

Joe Albertson

Milam Market

The example works against any crushing mega corp.

In the case of shell lumber they shut down a home depot five miles from their store.

Then they went on the offensive offering exotic lumber at very competetive prices.

They are ruling in Dade County.

One store.

Strategy assymetrical and pounding

They have been in business 38 years and have many locations, so it is not like the Joe Johnson example with someone starting out today. It works for Milam today but wouldn't work for Joe Johnson and the situation I gave.

I would wager Milam is bought out in the next 5- 10 years.

That looks like a great group of stores.

I am not saying someone can't start a grocery business in America, or any business for that matter.

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#7 - I used to be in a partnership in an export buiness. I have not been personally involved in owning an import business but I did work for a company that did import, so I have some knowledge off imports as well.

note - I would never advocate drive down wages in America to compete with chinks. I think you may have misunderstood what I meant when I said to compete today on the scale you were talking, with things as they currently are, we would need to lower wages in America. I am not for that though.

Okay, now I am reading and will try to respond to the Schwin story. I don't understand why you would build bikes and sell them to Schwinn, who in turn would sell them to somebody else. I would think Schwinn would have their own bikes built to sell to Chinese people and cut out the middleman and the 20% profit they take? Maybe they want to profit just from the name and not the product? I don't know the answer but that is just a guess.

The rest of your question makes sense to me and I will try and answer it. - In your example you are asking how can we sell bikes to China when they can impose tarriffs or what ever they want. Well they can do whatever they want as a country so there is not much you can do if you are Schwinn. I would suggest Schwinn focus on selling in countries other than China.

Next you present the flip side which you say is a Chinese company replacing Schwinns middle man that build the frames and build cheaper lower quality ones for. The chinks can do that you say and I agree with you on that.

Lastly, you ask about jobs going to China and how do we deal with that and will they come back. - Ok this is a really hard question to ACCURATELY answer on a forum off the top of my head because it is very complex to answer. So I cannot accurately answer your question. I can give you a brief idea of my overall opinion though. I don't think you can compete with that currently very easily. You can't really control another country. You would have to look at the current structures of the world and find your niche where you can make the most profit. Things will never stay the same and will always be in a state of change so as a business you have to be prepared to easily and quickly addapt.

A similar thing to your China example is already happening in the USA that you could use as an example. Lets say Joe Johnson wants to open a grocery store and compete with Safeway in America. (This example could apply to most any business in America in todays climate). Joe Johnson wants to sell many of the same products as the other grocery stores sell that people buy every day. He goes to the American manufacturer to buy them and he finds that he has to pay 20%-40% more than Safeway. He discovers it is that way with all the manufacturers. I don't know if you know why Joe Johnson has to pay 20%-40% more per item? It has to do with the powers of mega corporations and the pressures they can apply to manufacturers in order to stifle competition. It is no different than China and yet it is happening in the USA. So how does he compete with Safeway in America? You can't build a grocery business in America like Joe Albertson once did anymore.

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Hey 69, with the bikes I was using the frame manufacturer as an example. Not the complete bike.

Your example with Safeway is a good one.

And it too ties in with the need to stem the flow of "cheap shit" into the US. Because that's were many of the mega companies get goods to beat down local companies.

Amazon is a great example. One of their tactics is to buy bulk shit from China and other sweatshops and import them to Canada and Mexico. From there they ship to distribution centers around the US. By doing so and because of NAFTA they circumvent tariffs. Local shops and/or "brick and mortar" don't stand a chance.

Tariffs can help smaller companies compete with larger companies in that way.

Another way to compete with the mega corps is to stay off their radar. Build a great product at a fair price and keep your head down. Once you get too big they will take notice and come for you. When they do that's when it gets tuff. They'll go after your customers and undercut your prices. Sometimes they will take a lose for a short time just to get the market shares. It sucks and it happens and at that point you better have other customers or you're in trouble.

What do you mean? A grocery store has to make it in its neighborhood

With publix winn dixie walmart aldi target as well as the corner bodega

Their parking lots indicate they are succeeding.

Every store opening is a zero start.

The box stores are their own worst enemy

Its easy to kill an elephant.

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The box stores are their own worst enemy

Its easy to kill an elephant.

Not if they are too big to fail.

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Hey 69, with the bikes I was using the frame manufacturer as an example. Not the complete bike.

Your example with Safeway is a good one.

And it too ties in with the need to stem the flow of "cheap shit" into the US. Because that's were many of the mega companies get goods to beat down local companies.

Amazon is a great example. One of their tactics is to buy bulk shit from China and other sweatshops and import them to Canada and Mexico. From there they ship to distribution centers around the US. By doing so and because of NAFTA they circumvent tariffs. Local shops and/or "brick and mortar" don't stand a chance.

Tariffs can help smaller companies compete with larger companies in that way.

Another way to compete with the mega corps is to stay off their radar. Build a great product at a fair price and keep your head down. Once you get too big they will take notice and come for you. When they do that's when it gets tuff. They'll go after your customers and undercut your prices. Sometimes they will take a lose for a short time just to get the market shares. It sucks and it happens and at that point you better have other customers or you're in trouble.

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I agree. Great information!

I didn't say kill the species

No one gives a fuck about trump.

Tariffs are complex. there is no doubt about that. Slave labor... protectionism... subsides. You can not talk about Tariffs without talking about those things. Tariffs are the end game of a lot of those things. The japs were really good at understanding that and they brought some of biggest industries to their knees by playing the long game on flooding markets with high ticket items.

The end game is always to make it so the country targeted simply loses all of its power to manufacture anything. It also helps if you can bribe that countries politicians into crippling regulation of its manufacturing. An example would be... you make all your stuff with slave labor and cheap power from massive and numerous coal fired plants.

Said smart country would then support politicians in the targeted country who favored huge minimum wage increases and crippling bennies. At the same time they would support environmentalists and others who outlawed cheap means of making power in that country.

Said smart country would also look at the election laws and flaws and maybe do some cheating there to get in toadies.

Then they would use their influence to send out the message that Tariffs were evil and a 'tax on the people' while not changing their own tariff laws.

lazs

Milo said that '700 pages' seems like a fishing expedition.

lazs

Milo said that no one writes 700 pages of incriminating shit but some druggies put megabites of incriminating evidence on laptops and then lose the thing.

lazs