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  • I never said a lump of DNA at a week was not a human being.... A potential one. Takes more to be human that a few DNA cells.


    Time for compromise is over? LOL.... There are hundreds of worse things to fall on your sword over.


    I did not make up my god. He gave me the ability to know his will tho. We don't always agree. that's when I call in the Holy ghost. that guy is reasonable.


    lazs

    "Don't let it end like this. Tell them I said something."



    Pancho Villa, last words (1877 - 1923)

  • something else... IIRC was there a message to a church about being neither hot or cold...


    and was called on it... for being neither...


    some folks are pretty hot about abortion...


    and according to the history in Canaan folks paid for sacrificing children...


    so...


    the reaction from some is they consider abortion murder upon the altar of selfishness... and convenience

    Dietrich Bonhoeffer: “Silence in the face of evil is itself evil. God will not hold us guiltless. Not to speak is to speak. Not to act is to act.”


    Presbyterian Rev. Gilbert Tennant:

    “He that suffers his life to be taken from him by one who has no authority for that purpose, when he might preserve it by defense, incurs the Guilt of self murder since God has enjoined him to seek the continuance of his life, and Nature itself teaches every creature to defend itself.”

  • How about if I just call my god Yahweh? I'm good with that and my friend lazs won't ever confuse MY god for his. ;)

    Drop the brick Rick, it ain't no trick, get yourself free.


    "It's no longer our job to wake the sheep. It's time to wake the other lions."


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  • Emmanuel.

    Backyard Commandos INC, HMFIC


    I disagree but I respect your right to be stupid.


    Winners focus on winning, losers focus on winners.


    It's hard for liberals with mental disorders to think that other people don't also have the same mental disorders. - Danneskjold 2018

  • Jehovah.

    ‘If you’re not a liberal when you’re 25, you have no heart. If you’re not a conservative by the time you’re 35, you have no brain.’

    No amount of evidence will ever persuade an idiot - Mark Twain

    TWAT on 10/14/2019 :

    Lemme say that again... I don't care. If. The accusations against Trump. Are factual. Or not.

  • Beth El

    What the Fuck was that?

    Some guy Hiroshima, Japan August 6, 1945 08:15:47

    Some guy Nagasaki, Japan August 9, 1945 11:02:44

    Some guy Chernobyl, Ukraine SSR April 26, 1986 01:23:03

    Some guy Fukushima Daiichi nuclear plant March 11, 2011 11:28:37

    Hillary Clinton, November 8, 2016 22:07:32

    Secret Service Agent attending Biden/Pope Francis meeting October 29, 2021

  • Gawd

    Of all tyrannies a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It may be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies, The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end, for they do so with the approval of their own conscience. — C.S. Lewis

  • Dios

    What the Fuck was that?

    Some guy Hiroshima, Japan August 6, 1945 08:15:47

    Some guy Nagasaki, Japan August 9, 1945 11:02:44

    Some guy Chernobyl, Ukraine SSR April 26, 1986 01:23:03

    Some guy Fukushima Daiichi nuclear plant March 11, 2011 11:28:37

    Hillary Clinton, November 8, 2016 22:07:32

    Secret Service Agent attending Biden/Pope Francis meeting October 29, 2021

  • La madre de los tomates

    What the Fuck was that?

    Some guy Hiroshima, Japan August 6, 1945 08:15:47

    Some guy Nagasaki, Japan August 9, 1945 11:02:44

    Some guy Chernobyl, Ukraine SSR April 26, 1986 01:23:03

    Some guy Fukushima Daiichi nuclear plant March 11, 2011 11:28:37

    Hillary Clinton, November 8, 2016 22:07:32

    Secret Service Agent attending Biden/Pope Francis meeting October 29, 2021

  • Triune, not difficult to grasp.


    Apparently it is for some.

    Trinity as a doctrine was introduced in the third century. This is a historic fact. There is neither Biblical nor scholarly evidence that it was at all considered by the first century Christians, and certainly wasn't a doctrine taught by the apostles who knew Jesus.


    Bible verses used by those who promote Trinity do not stand up to close scrutiny when they are placed in their total context. John 1:1 is probably the most cited, but as I pointed out, does not stand up to simple logic. There are two possible interpretations of the use of θεὸς in the text: A: intended to mean God=The Word (Jesus) or B: The Word is being described as being Godlike / Divine in nature, but a separate being. Since both cannot be true, what do other scriptures indicate. As I pointed out, they indicate God and Jesus are separate. Hence the "B" interpretation is the one that should be accepted.


    If God and Jesus are separate, there is no "Triune God". There is one God, Jehovah the Father. Jesus is his Son, but not co-equal. Exalted in status, absolutely, but not co-equal.


    Phillipians 2:5-6:

    "Keep this mental attitude in you that was also in Christ Jesus, who, although he was existing in God’s form, gave no consideration to a seizure, namely, that he should be equal to God"


    But don't take my word for it. I encourage everyone who has a genuine interest to read the Bible and decide for themselves what is logical and true. Happy to continue the conversation with anyone interested.


    /endhijack #2 (or is it #3?)

    Brauno in a previous life, followed by LTARget. E25280 on the Forum.

    SWtarget in last AH in game incarnation.

    "Proudly drawing fire so my brothers may pass unharmed."

    Brauno in World of Tanks.

    "What is, is. What was, will be. What will be, was, but will be again." - Horseshack from Welcome Back Kotter

  • La madre de los tomates

    What the Fuck was that?

    Some guy Hiroshima, Japan August 6, 1945 08:15:47

    Some guy Nagasaki, Japan August 9, 1945 11:02:44

    Some guy Chernobyl, Ukraine SSR April 26, 1986 01:23:03

    Some guy Fukushima Daiichi nuclear plant March 11, 2011 11:28:37

    Hillary Clinton, November 8, 2016 22:07:32

    Secret Service Agent attending Biden/Pope Francis meeting October 29, 2021

  • So it’s kind of a gotcha post because you know the word trinity is never used in scripture. You want one of us to spell it out for you.


    I asked my wife about it and she sent me this link.


    https://overviewbible.com/trinity-bible-verses/


    What is revealed to you when you read that is for you. I’m not posting to change your mind.

    Backyard Commandos INC, HMFIC


    I disagree but I respect your right to be stupid.


    Winners focus on winning, losers focus on winners.


    It's hard for liberals with mental disorders to think that other people don't also have the same mental disorders. - Danneskjold 2018

  • Razer, thanks for sharing. I can see how if one already believes in Trinity that those would be supportive of that belief. But if you aren't already starting there, I'm very hard pressed to see how these are indicating they are one being. Just one example, but basically similar in all of them:

    4. Luke 3:22

    “And the Holy Spirit descended upon Him [Jesus] in bodily form like a dove, and a voice came out of heaven, “You are My [the Father’s] beloved Son, in You I am well-pleased.”


    If the Holy Spirit descended upon Jesus, it clearly must be separate from Jesus.

    If Jesus is God, who is speaking out of heaven? Someone who is not Jesus.

    A human Father and a Son are different people, are they not? Why would the terms be used any differently when relating to the spiritual realm?


    So to me, the viewpoint that these scriptures refer to three different "people" appears just as valid. When coupled with other examples, a few of which I've already provided, in my view we're back to the A vs. B logical argument, and "B" seems more correct.


    Sidenote, the way Holy Spirit is talked about often makes it sound more like a force rather than a personality. "Spirit of God" as God's power, if you will. Also consider that unlike the Father and the Son, the Holy Spirit appears to have no proper name (Father and Son being Jehovah and Jesus).


    I understand you may not agree. But I believe it is healthy for one to examine his spiritual health from time to time.

    2 Corinthians 13:5a "Keep testing whether you are in the faith; keep proving what you yourselves are."

    Brauno in a previous life, followed by LTARget. E25280 on the Forum.

    SWtarget in last AH in game incarnation.

    "Proudly drawing fire so my brothers may pass unharmed."

    Brauno in World of Tanks.

    "What is, is. What was, will be. What will be, was, but will be again." - Horseshack from Welcome Back Kotter

  • The holy spirit is a reasonable guy.


    elphie.... I will never confuse your god with mine. Even tho they are the same. How we view them is much different.


    iron. if the end times is abortion? it is not half the people who want some form of abortion it is like 70% or so.


    lazs

    "Don't let it end like this. Tell them I said something."



    Pancho Villa, last words (1877 - 1923)

  • last reports I saw SEEM to claim otherwise... more are against past a certain point... ???

    Dietrich Bonhoeffer: “Silence in the face of evil is itself evil. God will not hold us guiltless. Not to speak is to speak. Not to act is to act.”


    Presbyterian Rev. Gilbert Tennant:

    “He that suffers his life to be taken from him by one who has no authority for that purpose, when he might preserve it by defense, incurs the Guilt of self murder since God has enjoined him to seek the continuance of his life, and Nature itself teaches every creature to defend itself.”

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