Viability depends on geography.
The viability of a 12 week preemie in the Johns Hopkins maternity ward is a lot better than the viability of a 12 week preemie born to a sheep herder in rural Wyoming
Viability depends on geography.
The viability of a 12 week preemie in the Johns Hopkins maternity ward is a lot better than the viability of a 12 week preemie born to a sheep herder in rural Wyoming
Who the fuck is krom?
Ok... lets get to the racial component just to really flip people out. At this point.... white healthy babies go for a pretty good sum. no one wants a negro baby.... Soooooo should white mothers with a white fetus be not allowed abortion because they have options? I mean..., soon as it's butt is spanked and it cries? dozens of offers. Negro? naaa... ghetto bullshit for life. Big deal... the white mom has to go through a few months discomfort but gets $50 k or so and the baby goes to a loving family. The negro? the dad is in prison now and the baby lives a hell on earth life. Should any of that matter? should a few months of discomfort matter more or less than a lifetime?
Oh... no abortion at all is a loser.... you can't even talk it away with a funny meme. you look like a snake handling buffoon to the voters https://www.foxnews.com/politi…eeping-roe-v-wade-polling
lazs
And yet murder and stealing are illegal.
and yet it still happens, odd.
Holden... thought we were talking the United States?
lazs
Interesting you chose 3 months tho. that used to be the standard for a little while. I am good with that.
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Display MoreWho the fuck is krom?
Ok... lets get to the racial component just to really flip people out. At this point.... white healthy babies go for a pretty good sum. no one wants a negro baby.... Soooooo should white mothers with a white fetus be not allowed abortion because they have options? I mean..., soon as it's butt is spanked and it cries? dozens of offers. Negro? naaa... ghetto bullshit for life. Big deal... the white mom has to go through a few months discomfort but gets $50 k or so and the baby goes to a loving family. The negro? the dad is in prison now and the baby lives a hell on earth life. Should any of that matter? should a few months of discomfort matter more or less than a lifetime?
Oh... no abortion at all is a loser.... you can't even talk it away with a funny meme. you look like a snake handling buffoon to the voters https://www.foxnews.com/politi…eeping-roe-v-wade-polling
lazs
Your god. The one you made in your own image.
Judge not lest you be judged.... heard that somewhere. You don't know shit about my god and I am good with that. The fact that you think you do is kinda.... repugnant. Do not presume to be the arbiter of who and what god is and what he wants.
As you guys are passing the viper around at church you probly get a good chuckle out of the Krom joke.
lazs
Holden... thought we were talking the United States?
lazs
Johns Hopkins (Maryland) and Wyoming are both in the United States…
Interesting you chose 3 months tho. that used to be the standard for a little while. I am good with that.
lazs
But viability changes with the technology available. I picked 12 weeks randomly
Judge not lest you be judged.... heard that somewhere. You don't know shit about my god and I am good with that. The fact that you think you do is kinda.... repugnant. Do not presume to be the arbiter of who and what god is and what he wants.
As you guys are passing the viper around at church you probly get a good chuckle out of the Krom joke.
lazs
You mock the Christian God so tell me, who is your God?
Are you mocking Krom?
lazs
Yes. I mock all gods fashioned to suit their supplicants.
I'm not ashamed of my God and I must acknowledge him.
“Whoever acknowledges me before others, I will also acknowledge before my Father in heaven. But whoever disowns me before others, I will disown before my Father in heaven."
Matthew 10:32-33
Own up to the fact that it is as simple as saying that the mom's rights trump the unborn baby's rights... always. It's cruel. It's inhumane. It is taken advantage of for the most selfish of reasons.
Mom's rights shouldn't include the right to kill her unborn child.
Holden... exactly... Viability changes with science. I am good with that. it is the same in montana as it is in NYC pretty fucking sure tho that it is not sperm attached to egg an hour ago... after that? who the fuck knows but someday they may just cut the fucker out of the womb and raise it in a petri dish.... I am good with that.
You need a point tho. what to base it on? A book written 2k years ago and translated 50 times? or what science can do.
lazs
iron... what do you not get? I don't give a fuck what you say some guy named Matthew said. You mocking my relationship with god is every bit as offensive to me as me mocking your christianity.
lazs
Elphie... that is below you. what is an 'unborn child' ?
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Is it murder to unplug him?
As long as there is no hope of recovery and the only thing keeping him alive is a bunch of machines, then no.
I would add that if someone has preferences for pulling the plug in those circumstances it isn't murder then either.
I also don't think assisted suicide for the terminally ill is murder, that can be a mercy for the condemned.
I am good with that. it is the same in montana as it is in NYC pretty fucking sure tho that it is not sperm attached to egg an hour ago... after that?
It is not the same. A 12 week preemie born in Johns Hopkins Maternity center has a much better chance than one born in the back of a F-150 60 miles outside of Cheyenne.
Elphie... that is below you. what is an 'unborn child' ?
lazs
It's that thing you call a fetus, I call it a baby or an unborn child.
*Edit* Fetus or unborn child, mom shouldn't have the right to kill it.
Display MoreWrag. we just don't agree I think but I will answer your question. I have no idea when I became self aware but if there is no brain activity there can be no self awareness.
The moment of conception thing is a religious idea not a scientific one. I respect peoples religions within limits but I don't want them to dictate to others based on their belief
It for sure is a complex situation. it seems that it is one where science and religion clash. Not the first time and.... religion is not always right.
I think that there needs to be some kind of cutoff date for abortion to be legal. There is no debate tho when one side says still cool when the head pokes out and the other says not cool the sec you shoot your load into the old lady.
Both positions are extreme and wrong in my opinion.
lazs
cool... we see this differently...
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