It is a myth

  • Despite popular belief, California residents are not fleeing the state in droves, new survey finds (

    • Some have pushed the idea that residents of California are leaving the state in high numbers.
    • But a new study by the University of California found the "Cal exodus" to be a myth.
    • The researchers said some residents are leaving the state, but not in unusual numbers.
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    Residents of California are not moving out of the state in abnormal numbers, contrary to popular belief, according to a new survey by the University of California published this week.

    Much has been written about people making the move from California to other places in the US, like Idaho or Florida and Texas. The UC researchers said the new survey is part of a larger research project that began last fall to examine whether or not there actually is a "Cal exodus."

    But the researchers found that while some Californians are leaving the state, it is not happening at unusual rates. They also said there was no evidence of "millionaire flight" and that the state attracts "as much venture capital as all other states combined."

    "Despite the popular notion of unhappy Californians leaving the state en masse, our robust research shows there is actually no exodus," said Thad Kousser, chair of the political science department at UC San Diego and lead researcher of the most recent survey.

    The project analyzed survey data and found the number of residents who said they were considering leaving the state remained static over the past two years. Researchers also found no increase in Google searches for terms like "moving company" or "U-Haul" in the state.

    "The empirical data will be, at once, disappointing to those who want to write California's obituary, as well as a call to action for policymakers to address the challenges that have caused some to lose faith in the California Dream," UC Regent John A. Pérez said in a press release about the study.

    The survey of 3,000 residents also found 21% of Democrat respondents were seriously considering moving while 30% of Republicans were. However, it also found that the number of residents who say California is one of the best places to live decreased from 50% in a 2019 poll to 42%.

    So, once again Dora is shovelings the shit.

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    tRump is the Master of the Con with 70 years of practice/experience. It is sad that so many supposedly intelligent and educated people fall for his cons.

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  • Well... so the numbers leaving are not 'unusual' same as two years ago? LOL. The census shows that people are leaving the state or ..... that the state is losing population. Enough to lose a senate seat and for Tejas to gain one or two.

    So what does the real numbers mean compared to the 'survey' from MSN? Well.... the survey leaves out that California is losing population. People are not seeking to move here. Not in anything like the rates of the past when California was the destination of choice.

    Latest poll in Frisco showed that 40% of the people there wanted to move out. California is very expensive. once you move away you are most likely not able to come back.


    "Don't let it end like this. Tell them I said something."

    Pancho Villa, last words (1877 - 1923)

  • Not a senate seat, a house seat.

    But the OP reminds me of something...

    "There are no American infidels in Baghdad. Never!"

    "My feelings, as usual, we will slaughter them all."

    "Our initial assessment is that they will all die."

    "No I am not scared and neither should you be!"

    "We will welcome them with bullets and shoes."

    "They're not even [within] 100 miles [of Baghdad]. They are not in any place. They hold no place in Iraq. This is an illusion... they are trying to sell to the others an illusion."

    Who was that guy?

  • Wow. He thinks he just hit us with some powerhouse blow. It's like the census bureau got it all wrong and a California government-ran institution is much more trustworthy and accurate. When you worship what the media publishes, you end up right where milo is.

  • It's already cooling off,the house next door has been for sale for almost a month now and only a few lookers.In may 3 houses sold in my neighborhood and all had multiple offers and sold for more than asking.

    The wife and I have been looking for some waterfront property for the past 3 or 4 months,some of the prices are actually being reduced for the first time in a couple of years.My wife has a friend in real estate and she says people are tired of making offers only to be turned down or over bid so they are starting to sit back and wait.

    I dont think prices will drop that much but the bidding wars will end and they will sell for asking or just below instead of 100's of thou over asking.We're not planning on selling just getting a second place to summer at.

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