Fuck The Kurds

  • https://www.cnn.com/2019/10/07…syria-intl-hnk/index.html


    Turkey to send troops into northern Syria as US pulls out of area, White House says

    Helen Regan byline
    Jeremy Diamond byline

    By Helen Regan and Jeremy Diamond, CNN

    Updated 7:45 AM ET, Mon October 7, 2019

    A soldier sits atop an armoured vehicle during a demonstration by Syrian Kurds against Turkish threats at a US-led international coalition base on the outskirts of Ras al-Ain town in Syria's Hasakeh province near the Turkish border on October 6, 2019. - Ankara had reiterated on October 5 an oft-repeated threat to launch an




    (CNN)In a remarkable announcement late Sunday night, the White House said that United States forces in northern Syria would move aside in advance of a planned Turkish military offensive.

    The move marks a major shift in US foreign policy and effectively gives Turkey the green light to attack US-backed Kurdish forces. The group, long considered as among Washington's most reliable partners in Syria, has played a key strategic role in the campaign against ISIS in the region.
    Following a phone call between US President Donald Trump and Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan, the White House said that Turkey would soon begin a military offensive and US forces would not be involved in the operation.
    "Turkey will soon be moving forward with its long-planned operation into Northern Syria," a statement said. "The United States Armed Forces will not support or be involved in the operation, and United States forces, having defeated the ISIS territorial 'Caliphate,' will no longer be in the immediate area."

    The White House added Turkey would now be responsible for all captured ISIS fighters who are currently being held by US-backed Kurdish forces in northern Syria.
    As of last month, the US said about 1,000 US troops were operating in northeastern Syria. Sunday's statement did not specify if this constituted a full withdrawal of personnel from the country.
    Trump and Erdogan had a phone call on Sunday where they discussed Turkey's military operation into northern Syria.
    Trump and Erdogan had a phone call on Sunday where they discussed Turkey's military operation into northern Syria.

    'Peace efforts'

    Erdogan confirmed Monday that US troops had begun withdrawing from northeast Syria. He announced Saturday that Turkey had "completed our preparations and action plan" and was ready to launch a "ground and air operation" east of the Euphrates river, with the goal of establishing "peace" by clearing the region of "terrorists."
    Turkey's operation is aimed at clearing the US-backed Kurdish militia -- the People's Protection Units (YPG) -- away from Turkey's border.
    Ankara regards the YPG as a terrorist group affiliated with the Kurdistan Workers' Party (PKK), which has fought the Turkish state for more than three decades. But the US backs the YPG and credits the Kurds for helping defeat ISIS in Syria.
    Turkey has been working with the US to establish "safe zones" that run along the Turkey-Syria border, but Anadolu reports that while Turkey welcomes the joint patrols, it has also said the US is not doing enough to set up the safe zone properly.
    In a phone call with Trump, Erdogan expressed frustration over the US military's failure to implement the agreement between the two nations, according to a readout of the call released by the Turkish Presidency. The two leaders agreed to meet in Washington next month on Trump's invitation.
    The US and Turkey have been working to establish the buffer zone, which the US calls a "security mechanism," in northeast Syria as part of a bid to prevent a military incursion into the area that would target Syrian Kurdish groups, a potential operation that the US fears could undermine the fight against ISIS.
    The US military's involvement along the Syria-Turkish border includes manning observation posts as well as patrolling with Turkish troops in the area.

    US changes tone

    Trump's decision to allow Erdogan to move forward with the operation and to move US forces out of the area goes against efforts by US officials to dissuade Turkey from carrying out a military intervention.
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    "Any uncoordinated military operation by Turkey would be of grave concern as it would undermine our shared interest of a secure northeast Syria and the enduring defeat of ISIS," Pentagon spokesman Sean Robertson said recently.
    He added that the US was committed to implementing the security mechanism, or safe zone, and contrary to Erdogan's comments, said it was "on time, or ahead of schedule, in many areas."
    On Saturday, US Secretary of State Mike Pompeo told reporters that "we've made clear that this conflict shouldn't be militarized."
    However, a US official familiar with operations in Syria told CNN that is "very likely" Turkey will try something soon. The official said it's possible Ankara will start with a limited incursion to establish Turkish patrol bases on the Syrian side of the border with the goal of launching more ambitious clearance operations later.
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    A forgotten camp in Syria could be the birthplace of ISIS' revenge generation

    "A response by the Syrian Democratic Forces (SDF) would play into Turkey's narrative that they need to make the area safe to return refugees."
    From the Kurdish-led SDF's perspective they feel that any unilateral action by Turkey on Syrian territory is a threat and they must respond.
    "Allowing Turkish patrol bases now opens the door to permanent occupation and makes it easier for the Turkish military to attack the SDF later," the official said.
    In response, the SDF announced Monday that it was pulling some of their fighters from guarding captured ISIS prisoners and was sending them towards the Syrian-Turkish border.
    "We were doing our best to provide the best kind of security in the prisons and in the camps... [but] with the Turkish invasion... we are forced to pull out some of our troops from the prisons and from the camps to the border to protect our people," SDF spokesman Mustafa Bali told CNN.
    This comes as a US official confirmed to CNN that the SDF had been informed that the US would not defend them from Turkey.
    The SDF released a scathing statement Monday, accusing the US of "not abiding by their commitments" to avoid a military escalation.
    "This Turkish military operation in northern and eastern Syria will have a large, negative impact on our war against ISIS and will destroy all the stability that has been accomplished over the past years," the SDF statement said.
    "We in the Syrian Democratic Forces will not hesitate for a moment to defend ourselves," it continued, adding that it would call upon its allies to help defend from "Turkish aggression."
    A spokesman for Syria's Manbij Military Council (MMC) -- which is a coalition of SDF groups -- also criticized Trump's decision to withdraw troops from northern and eastern Syria.
    Shervan Darwish said it "will give a morale boost to ISIS's sleeper sells and will create a vacuum that ISIS will certainly use."
    However Turkey's presidential spokesperson Ibrahim Kalin tweeted Monday that the two aims of the safe zones in Syria are to clear "terror elements to ensure the safety of our border and the safe return of refugees."

    Kalin also tweeted that "we have no interest on anybody's territory."
    Turkey plans to resettle two million Syrians in a 30-kilometer-wide (18.6 miles) safe zone to be set up in Syria, stretching from the Euphrates River to the Iraqi border, including Manbij, according to Anadolu.

  • Bummer Scroat, no war profiteering for you on this one.

    MNN on 6/18/19

    "chump will assuredly lose 2020 barring an event that cancels the election - he just cant keep his scummy yankee mouth shut"


    MNN on 6/24/19

    Chump is going to tote an ass kicking nov 2020

  • And yet here we are nearly 3 years into his presidency. And how many wars has he started? And I'll take it a step farther. If a major war starts there I predict he tells the UN to handle it.

    MNN on 6/18/19

    "chump will assuredly lose 2020 barring an event that cancels the election - he just cant keep his scummy yankee mouth shut"


    MNN on 6/24/19

    Chump is going to tote an ass kicking nov 2020

  • chump is a mental midget who will cause a major war in that region

    Well, Hillary agrees with you so that should tell you something. She says it's a "sickening betrayal of our allies".


    Maybe someone should remind that cunt about Benghazi.

    MNN on 6/18/19

    "chump will assuredly lose 2020 barring an event that cancels the election - he just cant keep his scummy yankee mouth shut"


    MNN on 6/24/19

    Chump is going to tote an ass kicking nov 2020

  • you notice that nobody can defend a chump fuckup without saying but hillary, but bill, but obama, but mccain, but romney, etc... he is a total fuckup and needs to be railed out asap

    Amnesty lives - The wall died.


    REMEMBER ALL OF THE VICTIMS OF THE CALIFORNIA TRAGEDY!!!

    Nothing happened - they just live there.

  • you notice that nobody can defend a chump fuckup without saying but hillary, but bill, but obama, but mccain, but romney, etc... he is a total fuckup and needs to be railed out asap

    So you agree with Hillary?

    MNN on 6/18/19

    "chump will assuredly lose 2020 barring an event that cancels the election - he just cant keep his scummy yankee mouth shut"


    MNN on 6/24/19

    Chump is going to tote an ass kicking nov 2020

  • in this case, she is saying the right thing but if she were in office shed be doing exactly the same stupid shit her friend chump is doing

    Amnesty lives - The wall died.


    REMEMBER ALL OF THE VICTIMS OF THE CALIFORNIA TRAGEDY!!!

    Nothing happened - they just live there.

  • Please explain to me why we shouldn't pull our troops out.


    Personally, I think we shouldn't have been there to begin with. And if the entire region goes to war I don't care. As long as we aren't sending our kids to die for some bullshit reason, they can wipe themselves out of existence.

    MNN on 6/18/19

    "chump will assuredly lose 2020 barring an event that cancels the election - he just cant keep his scummy yankee mouth shut"


    MNN on 6/24/19

    Chump is going to tote an ass kicking nov 2020

  • you will see, our people were there to make damn sure the mongoloid russians and iranians there did not get out of hand, now turkey is in.... you retard worshippers have no fucking clue what you just unleashed. maybe the mossad will 'remove' him.

    Amnesty lives - The wall died.


    REMEMBER ALL OF THE VICTIMS OF THE CALIFORNIA TRAGEDY!!!

    Nothing happened - they just live there.

  • you will see, our people were there to make damn sure the mongoloid russians and iranians there did not get out of hand, now turkey is in.... you retard worshippers have no fucking clue what you just unleashed. maybe the mossad will 'remove' him.

    So you still think we need to be the "world police"?


    Fuck that, let the UN do it's job with MINIMAL support from us. Or better yet let the Middle East settle it's own differences. You really think if the evil Russians invade that the rest of the region will sit idly by? And if they do, fuck'em.


    Every time we (as in the USA) get involved over there it just backs up the camel jockey's claim of us being "The Great Satan".


    We need to get out and stay out.

    MNN on 6/18/19

    "chump will assuredly lose 2020 barring an event that cancels the election - he just cant keep his scummy yankee mouth shut"


    MNN on 6/24/19

    Chump is going to tote an ass kicking nov 2020

  • And I see Milo liked MNN's post.


    MiloMorai


    So Milo can I assume you are all for sending Canadian kids over to the meat grinder?

    MNN on 6/18/19

    "chump will assuredly lose 2020 barring an event that cancels the election - he just cant keep his scummy yankee mouth shut"


    MNN on 6/24/19

    Chump is going to tote an ass kicking nov 2020

  • In this case it's not about being the world police. The Kurds have been our buddies since the beginning of Dubya's Fuckup. Now I don't know shit about Kurds. They're probably just as shitty as your average muhammedan. But that's beside the point. The point is, how does this reflect of Amurica's credibility regarding its allies? How will our current allies see it, and more importantly how will our potential allies that we WILL need at some point in the future see it. We're abandoning our loyal allies. Have you no honor, sir???

  • Syria was never going to be our friend. We have enough nukes to kill everyone should the need arise.

    Hell, we have enough cruise missiles to just sit offshore and level the place if need be.

    MNN on 6/18/19

    "chump will assuredly lose 2020 barring an event that cancels the election - he just cant keep his scummy yankee mouth shut"


    MNN on 6/24/19

    Chump is going to tote an ass kicking nov 2020

  • In this case it's not about being the world police. The Kurds have been our buddies since the beginning of Dubya's Fuckup. Now I don't know shit about Kurds. They're probably just as shitty as your average muhammedan. But that's beside the point. The point is, how does this reflect of Amurica's credibility regarding its allies? How will our current allies see it, and more importantly how will our potential allies that we WILL need at some point in the future see it. We're abandoning our loyal allies. Have you no honor, sir???

    You might want to check out a timeline of US/Kurdish relations. We have been on again off again from LONG before W's time.


    Put your war profiteering ways aside and tell me you believe we should be over there.

    MNN on 6/18/19

    "chump will assuredly lose 2020 barring an event that cancels the election - he just cant keep his scummy yankee mouth shut"


    MNN on 6/24/19

    Chump is going to tote an ass kicking nov 2020