The Alt-Right is Killing People

  • for sure if you go far enough right you will be left. McViegh hated the ATF as did most people at the time. He felt that they murdered innocent men women and children and the sniper in question should have gone to trial for incompetence and manslaughter at best.


    The ATF is not a left wing organization by any stretch.


    lazs

    McVeigh was an anti-authoritarian. ATF is an authoritarian state construct/institution.

    "With the first link, the chain is forged. The first speech censured, the first thought forbidden, the first freedom denied, chains us all irrevocably."

  • Nope. National Socialism (Nazism) should and is near the top left if you look closely. Fascism as Benito Mussolini, the father of Fascism, put it: "Fascism should more properly be called corporatism, since it is the merger of state and corporate power." And: "Corporationism is above socialism and above liberalism. A new synthesis is created. It is a symptomatic fact that the decadence of capitalism coincides with the decadence of socialism. ... Corporative solutions can be applied anywhere."


    Fascism is corporatism or what you Americans call "crony-capitalism" a state run by industrialists/big business. Modern day China is a good example of a fascist state where the government directly or indirectly controls all the major business. Starting in the '90s they've crawled to the right on the political compass from National Communism to Fascism.


    State control over corporations is the definition of leftism...

  • State control over corporations is the definition of leftism...

    No. In communism corporations do not exist at all. Nor any personal property. In fascism the corporations are part of the state as Mussolini put it, a merger of state and corporations. When we look at corporate and political corruption (lobbying) in America it is clear that both China and America is moving towards fascism, but from opposite staring points. China is a lot further along in the process though.

    "With the first link, the chain is forged. The first speech censured, the first thought forbidden, the first freedom denied, chains us all irrevocably."

  • I have nothing in common with McVeigh. No one on this board has much in common with McVeigh.


    The exception are you leftists that hate America. McVeigh was a leftists Activist in the extreme. You beanercasian have much in common with McVeigh's ideology.

  • You can take the test here: https://www.politicalcompass.org/test


    The first question was stupid. It got worse from there. Those questions have nothing to do with political leanings.


    I honestly don't understand why people are so keen on labeling themselves. I have even more trouble understanding how people think those questions are relevant.

  • The first question: "If economic globalisation is inevitable, it should primarily serve humanity rather than the interests of trans-national corporations."


    If you don't think your answer to whether you agree with that or not reveals something about your political leanings you either are an idiot in the original Greek and Latin meaning of the word, or you're a moron.

    "With the first link, the chain is forged. The first speech censured, the first thought forbidden, the first freedom denied, chains us all irrevocably."

  • Economic Left/Right: 1.63


    Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -0.21


    Just right of center and a touch low.


    an unexpected result as I once lived in an anarcho-syndicalist commune. We took it in turns to act as sort of executive officer for the week, but all the decisions of that officer have to be ratified at a special bi-weekly meeting by a simple majority in the case of purely internal affairs...

  • I take it there was better filth to be found outside of the commune, proving that you really weren't an anarcho-syndicalist, but just a bloody peasant being repressed by the inherent violence of the system.

    "With the first link, the chain is forged. The first speech censured, the first thought forbidden, the first freedom denied, chains us all irrevocably."

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